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-==== Dietary Fiber ==== 
  
-Someone dear told me that Gorillas spend the whole day chewing on plant matter. ​ They get plenty ​of fiber. ​ It appears from the literature that humans also need lots of fiber, and that the modern diet is lacking.+~~META: 
 +title = The Many Benefits ​of Dietary Fiber 
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-https://​www.scientificamerican.com/​article/​fiber-famished-gut-microbes-linked-to-poor-health1+====== Dietary Fiber ======
  
-Resistant starch helps to influence appetite, as your biome is involved in brain signaling. [[https://​examine.com/​nutrition/​propionate-ally-against-overeating | source]]. ​ This includes fibers beta-glucan,​ inulin, and [[https://​www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/​pubmed/​18460488 | glucomannan]]. ​ They produce short chain fatty acids SCFA'​s,​ the primary being acetate, propionate, and butyrate. ​ Fiber helps with [[https://​academic.oup.com/​nutritionreviews/​article-abstract/​59/​5/​129/​1875096 | weight regulation]][[https://​www.healthline.com/​nutrition/​glucomannan |2]]: "The observed changes in energy intake and body weight occur both when the fiber is from naturally high-fiber foods and when it is from a fiber supplement"​. ​ For now, I am going to go by the hypothesis that supplemental fiber has the same benefits, or at least has most of the benefits of constantly eating foods full of fiber. ​ (update: [[http://​www.drsharma.ca/​obesity-fibre-supplement-can-decrease-glycemic-index | 1]] [[https://​academic.oup.com/​ajcn/​article/​102/​6/​1604/​4555168 | 2]] [[https://​www.npr.org/​sections/​thesalt/​2017/​10/​23/​558761819/​the-fda-will-decide-if-these-26-ingredients-count-as-fiber | 3]])+===== The Many Benefits of Dietary Fiber ===== 
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 +The modern diet, with its many processed foods, lacks sufficient fiber: 
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 +https://​www.scientificamerican.com/​article/​fiber-famished-gut-microbes-linked-to-poor-health1\\ 
 +https://​www.leafscience.org/​gut-microbes-support-neurogenesis-and-longevity-hormone-production 
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 +Resistant starch helps to influence appetite, as your biome is involved in brain signaling. [[https://​examine.com/​nutrition/​propionate-ally-against-overeating | source]]. ​ This includes fibers beta-glucan,​ inulin, and [[https://​www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/​pubmed/​18460488 | glucomannan]]. ​ They produce short chain fatty acids SCFA'​s,​ the primary being acetate, propionate, and [[https://​www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/​pubmed/​23947604 |butyrate]].  Fiber helps with [[https://​academic.oup.com/​nutritionreviews/​article-abstract/​59/​5/​129/​1875096 | weight regulation]][[https://​www.healthline.com/​nutrition/​glucomannan |2]]: "The observed changes in energy intake and body weight occur both when the fiber is from naturally high-fiber foods and when it is from a fiber supplement"​. ​ For now, I am going to go by the hypothesis that supplemental fiber has the same benefits, or at least has most of the benefits of constantly eating foods full of fiber. ​ (update: [[http://​www.drsharma.ca/​obesity-fibre-supplement-can-decrease-glycemic-index | 1]] [[https://​academic.oup.com/​ajcn/​article/​102/​6/​1604/​4555168 | 2]] [[https://​www.npr.org/​sections/​thesalt/​2017/​10/​23/​558761819/​the-fda-will-decide-if-these-26-ingredients-count-as-fiber | 3]])
  
 I'm taking glucomannan,​ because of all the fiber types I know of, it takes the fewest pills to get a serving. ​ Glucomannan "can absorb up to 50 times its weight in water, making it one of the most viscous dietary fibers known [6]. Therefore, glucomannan is taken in smaller doses than other types of fiber supplements." ​ [[https://​www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/​pmc/​articles/​PMC3892933 | source]] ​ I've also tried taking inulin in gummy form, not because these gummies have the best ingredients,​ but because they are yummy and I like eating them. I'm taking glucomannan,​ because of all the fiber types I know of, it takes the fewest pills to get a serving. ​ Glucomannan "can absorb up to 50 times its weight in water, making it one of the most viscous dietary fibers known [6]. Therefore, glucomannan is taken in smaller doses than other types of fiber supplements." ​ [[https://​www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/​pmc/​articles/​PMC3892933 | source]] ​ I've also tried taking inulin in gummy form, not because these gummies have the best ingredients,​ but because they are yummy and I like eating them.
  
-Update: Inulin gives me gas.  Apparently I'm not the only one [[https://​www.realmomnutrition.com/​chicory-root | 1]] [[https://​www.fooducate.com/​app#​!page=post&​id=57A32EC1-773B-8806-4115-8F87766B0FDC | 2]].  Inulin fiber molecular chains are shorter and get completely broken down by bacteria in the large intestine. ​ Glucomannan is harder for bacteria to break down, and I can take double or triple the recommended dose without bad effect.+Update: Inulin gives me gas.  Apparently I'm not the only one [[https://​www.realmomnutrition.com/​chicory-root | 1]] [[https://​www.fooducate.com/​app#​!page=post&​id=57A32EC1-773B-8806-4115-8F87766B0FDC | 2]].  Inulin fiber molecular chains are shorter and get completely broken down by bacteria in the large intestine. ​ Glucomannan is harder for bacteria to break down, and I can take double or triple the recommended dose without bad effect.  Update2: I found a study showing [[https://​www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/​pubmed/​22149628 |increased gas production]] from inulin, compared to glucomannan.
  
-I sprinkle a bit of psyllium husk fiber into my smoothies, but not too much as I find the flavor decreases the more fiber I add!  I also like to add celery to my smoothies. ​ Yes, I do try to eat more vegetables, and fermented foods, but I'm likely not going to dramatically change my diet anytime soon, so fiber supplements for me.  I take the fiber with my food, especially with any simple carbs or high [[https://​en.wikipedia.org/​wiki/​Glycemic | glycemic]] food.+I sprinkle a bit of psyllium husk fiber into my smoothies, but not too much as I find the flavor decreases the more fiber I add! [[https://​doi.org/​10.1016/​j.foodres.2014.07.008 |3]]  I also like to add celery to my smoothies. ​ Yes, I do try to eat more vegetables, and fermented foods, but I'm likely not going to dramatically change my diet anytime soon, so fiber supplements for me.  I take glucomannan ​fiber with my food, especially with any simple carbs or high [[https://​en.wikipedia.org/​wiki/​Glycemic | glycemic]] food.
  
 Serving size is relative however. ​ Is the one listed on the bottle relevant? ​ A google search produces claims of healthy being a 10:1 or 5:1 ratio of carbohydrates to fiber. ​ Another website claims that low glycemic foods have a 1:1 ratio. ​ So if you have a 20oz milkshake, you are having about 100 grams of carbohydrates. ​ That would mean 10 grams of fiber on the low side, or about 16 pills of glucomannan. ​ Let's fudge that number a bit, considering glucomannan has a higher absorption ability than other fibers. ​ It's still quite a few pills, more than I expected before doing this estimate. ​ Still feasible. ​ Studies on humans supplementing fiber, typically use 4 grams per day, and that has an effect by itself, but I wager taking more won't hurt, especially if you're having a milkshake. ​ Update: I've been happily consuming 10 pills (6 grams) before high glycemic meals. ​ Another 6 grams to go with dessert. ​ Update2: Seems people in other studies have taken [[https://​www.webmd.com/​vitamins/​ai/​ingredientmono-205/​glucomannan |10 grams per day]]. Serving size is relative however. ​ Is the one listed on the bottle relevant? ​ A google search produces claims of healthy being a 10:1 or 5:1 ratio of carbohydrates to fiber. ​ Another website claims that low glycemic foods have a 1:1 ratio. ​ So if you have a 20oz milkshake, you are having about 100 grams of carbohydrates. ​ That would mean 10 grams of fiber on the low side, or about 16 pills of glucomannan. ​ Let's fudge that number a bit, considering glucomannan has a higher absorption ability than other fibers. ​ It's still quite a few pills, more than I expected before doing this estimate. ​ Still feasible. ​ Studies on humans supplementing fiber, typically use 4 grams per day, and that has an effect by itself, but I wager taking more won't hurt, especially if you're having a milkshake. ​ Update: I've been happily consuming 10 pills (6 grams) before high glycemic meals. ​ Another 6 grams to go with dessert. ​ Update2: Seems people in other studies have taken [[https://​www.webmd.com/​vitamins/​ai/​ingredientmono-205/​glucomannan |10 grams per day]].
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 The following opinion article from 2011 slants towards eating natural fiber: http://​www.berkeleywellness.com/​healthy-eating/​food/​article/​faux-fiber-versus-real-thing. ​ It presents the idea that foods naturally high in fiber come with a variety of fiber types, not just one homogenous fiber type found in supplementation. ​ However, [[https://​www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/​pubmed/​2168943 | this experiment]],​ where monkeys were fed a "​western diet", actually improved in health metrics while supplementing with glucomannan fiber. I now feel safe eating whatever I want, with fiber pills handy. ​ I do love eating healthy food, and even prefer it, but it's ok for me to not be strict about it. The following opinion article from 2011 slants towards eating natural fiber: http://​www.berkeleywellness.com/​healthy-eating/​food/​article/​faux-fiber-versus-real-thing. ​ It presents the idea that foods naturally high in fiber come with a variety of fiber types, not just one homogenous fiber type found in supplementation. ​ However, [[https://​www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/​pubmed/​2168943 | this experiment]],​ where monkeys were fed a "​western diet", actually improved in health metrics while supplementing with glucomannan fiber. I now feel safe eating whatever I want, with fiber pills handy. ​ I do love eating healthy food, and even prefer it, but it's ok for me to not be strict about it.
  
-Another study on mice I read a long time ago, is that mice that never ate any sugar or other high glycemic food, but were injected with a glucose solution GOT DENTAL CAVITIES. ​ This means it may be possible to avoid cavities by avoiding high glycemic food, or by taking soluble fiber with high glycemic foods. ​ I hypothesize the fiber supplementation would render sugary foods to be non-high-glycemic,​ and thus not cause cavities. ​ [[health: ​toothpaste|Sugar in your mouth]] may still may be a factor, but to what degree I'm not sure: I have to find that mouse study again, as maybe they used controls for comparison.+Another study on mice I read a long time ago, is that mice that never ate any sugar or other high glycemic food, but were injected with a glucose solution GOT DENTAL CAVITIES. ​ This means it may be possible to avoid cavities by avoiding high glycemic food, or by taking soluble fiber with high glycemic foods. ​ I hypothesize the fiber supplementation would render sugary foods to be non-high-glycemic,​ and thus not cause cavities. ​ [[health: ​dental|Sugar in your mouth]] may still may be a factor, but to what degree I'm not sure: I have to find that mouse study again, as maybe they used controls for comparison.
  
 The site [[https://​nutritionfacts.org/​video/​getting-starch-to-take-the-path-of-most-resistance | nutritionfacts.org]] states that whole grains that need to be chewed are better than the same powdered whole grains, because some pieces make it through to the large intestine undigested, leaving a meal for beneficial bacteria. The site [[https://​nutritionfacts.org/​video/​getting-starch-to-take-the-path-of-most-resistance | nutritionfacts.org]] states that whole grains that need to be chewed are better than the same powdered whole grains, because some pieces make it through to the large intestine undigested, leaving a meal for beneficial bacteria.
  
-==== Regulating Insulin ====+===== Upper Limit / Too Much Fiber ===== 
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 +The only upper limit I could find is the following from Duke University, that recommends not too much above 50 grams, and gives an example of what it would take to eat 64 grams:\\ 
 +https://​studentaffairs.duke.edu/​studenthealth/​nutrition-services/​fiber 
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 +"Signs You’re Consuming Too Much Fiber:\\ 
 +Gastrointestinal distress, which may include bloating, gas, constipation,​ cramping and/or diarrhea."​ 
 + 
 +However, these conclusions are not backed by citations to research, and may well be the personal experience of one person. ​ While helpful, the conclusions are more hypothesis than fact. 
 +===== Regulating Insulin ​=====
  
 // From the discussion above, fiber may help in regulating unhealthy insulin responses //\\ // From the discussion above, fiber may help in regulating unhealthy insulin responses //\\
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 https://​www.marksdailyapple.com/​dairy-insulin https://​www.marksdailyapple.com/​dairy-insulin
  
-==== Inulin and FOS ====+++++ Old Notes | 
 +===== Inulin and FOS =====
  
 Former website healingcrow.com writes that supplementing inulin is sufficiently untested, and could lead to bad outcomes:\\ Former website healingcrow.com writes that supplementing inulin is sufficiently untested, and could lead to bad outcomes:\\
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 This is the company Natren'​s position, as mentioned in the healing crow article: https://​www.natren.com/​prebiotics.html This is the company Natren'​s position, as mentioned in the healing crow article: https://​www.natren.com/​prebiotics.html
  
-==== stuff I had written over a year ago ====+===== stuff I had written over a year ago =====
  
 [[health:​dietary-supplements#​rough-draft|copied from here]] [[health:​dietary-supplements#​rough-draft|copied from here]]
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 - Triphala:\\ - Triphala:\\
 http://​ajcn.nutrition.org/​content/​79/​4/​529.full http://​ajcn.nutrition.org/​content/​79/​4/​529.full
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